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Microsoft Silent on the SmartPart

This week I am teaching my 'Building Solutions for SharePoint' 5-day workshop again. Three persons who subscribed to the new Microsoft course 'Customizing Microsoft Office SharePoint Portal Server 2003' (MS2014) also join today and tomorrow for the Web part modules and the modules on working with the object model.

When talking about Web part development, you have two ways of developing SharePoint Web parts:

Following the official Microsoft documents
Going for the undocumented way via the technique of the ASP.NET user controls as the starting point for the Web parts.

My local MSDN article introducing that technique written in August 2003 (still with the beta version and a long time ago), has sparked a lot of initiatives in the SharePoint community the last year. I have been promoting it on every SharePoint-related presentation I have done. Working with ASP.NET user controls is good because the productivity you get when following this approach is much better than writing all of your GUI code within the CreateChildControls() of your Web part. Jan's efforts (together with Fons and now also Maxim and probably some others I forget) in making the technique more generic has resulted in the SmartPart v.1.0 and they have provided the community with an excellent alternative if you are looking to create SharePoint Web parts. Maxim has even a SmartPart Developer Kit available for download and has a great posting on CAS and the SmartPart. I am aware of numerous projects in which ASP.NET user controls are the driving force behind the Web parts.

So what is Microsoft saying about this technique? Nothing!
Despite the wide adoption of the 'alternative' technique, I don't see any material appearing from the Microsoft side that even points developers to the possibility of doing it this way. I once heard Mike FitzMaurice mention the technique on one slide during his presentation but he dismissed it saying the deployment was too hard (heuh?). The MOC I have to teach today is also not mentioning how you can be more productive with ASP.NET user controls. I find this a shame and it is good that these guys drop by in my workshop since now they will see both ways and can make the decision themselves - I have a pretty good idea which one they will prefer :-). Power to the SmartPart!

posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:39 AM

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Maxim V. Karpov

Patrick,

That is the problem with MS. They hire third-party companies that are on their vendor list who write courseware such as 2014.

MOC sharepoint courses are aweful and I cover other techniques during 2014 including SmartParts. It is the way to go with Web Part development for the current release.

What we should do it is sell custom SmartPart course!

My two cents. Maxim

[www.ipattern.com do you?]

Posted @ 12/7/2004 3:56 PM

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Mike Fitzmaurice

Patrick.. let's put my comments in context. I said that doing a good job of containing user controls inside a Web Part (including support for everything the infrastructure offers) involved far more work than a day-to-day user control builder would find attractive.

You, on the other hand, went to the trouble to do all that work for everyone else so they'd be spared the headaches. You even put it up on a GotDotNet workspace so people could learn how you did it.

I didn't realize you wanted an endorsement, or I'd have provided one long ago. How about this:

I love SmartPart! Using it will save you time and trouble extending SharePoint sites. Get it today!

--Fitz

Posted @ 12/7/2004 5:48 PM

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Steve Caravajal

I think the SmartPart is great. We have incorporated it into our 2014 course and a lot of the custom Sharepoint training we do.

The best endorsement is use. Maybe MS will incorporate in v3, there are a lot of areas for improvement especially on web part building.

And yes, 2014 is horrible. But it is consistent with the equally horrible 8036 and 2012 (now defunct).

-- Steve

Posted @ 12/8/2004 1:36 AM

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"I didn't realize you wanted an endorsement..." a typical egocentric interpretation of behavior that is clearly environmental. He doesn't "want" an endorsement. He wants you to get the news out that he has solved a problem that clearly Microsoft can't tackle (yet). Give him a job or somethin'!

I get this crap all the time from technical authority figures who are quick to dismiss instead being instinctively inclusive and distributive.

Now that I know about SmartPart I want to try it out because I know what the SharePoint team can do and I know the "quality" of their product since I have worked with it. It is just as simple as that.

No ego here: this Microsoft product speaks for itself and it is telling me, "I suck... please go and try third-party products to prop up my quivering fatty flesh." (You add echo effects, moans in Druid robes and rattlling chains here.)

Posted @ 12/8/2004 2:42 AM

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Thank you Bryan! Not trying to start a flamewar here, but SmartPart is a much easier interface to integrate into new projects than the standard WebParts interface. But you'd never know about SmartPart by just through at MS's SharePoint documentation. Even if it doesn't become a part of the product, MS should at least acknowledge it like they do other types of 3rd party enhancements.

And, IMHO, Mike's arrogance is not typical of all MS engineers, but certainly a healthy handful of them. As someone who's not an insider but knows a few well, their culture does have a tendency to breed some of this, and it's important for people on the outside to remind them that there is a real world out here, and people aren't going to use their products just because they make them. Like .NET or Exchange or any of their other platforms, MS and their development community need to work together to make it all work!

Posted @ 12/8/2004 8:01 PM

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Mike Fitzmaurice

At the risk of getting flamed again, I'm going to try to post one more response.

First of all, I'll make no attempt at humor this time. For the record, Jan's work on the Smart Part is excellent. He's made Web Part development significantly easier for many, many people. When I told Patrick (quite some time ago) that encapsulating user controls in Web Parts was a lot of work, I meant it -- but Jan undertook that work, and everyone benefits as a result.

I'm sensing two points being made: (1) we aren't promoting community efforts, and (2) our standard education materials fall short of what many of you need. Well, I'm prepared to concede on both points.

I'm also very much willing to do as much as I can to address both of those points. But I'll need help. If you'd be willing to visit my blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/mikefitz and post a comment or send me a note, I'd sure appreciate it.

--Fitz

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